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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 11:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear sir, I&#039;m not a pastor, just a servant of Christ. My life is different than most. I will be glad to write a testimony and include my views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear sir, I&#8217;m not a pastor, just a servant of Christ. My life is different than most. I will be glad to write a testimony and include my views.</p>
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		<title>By: martin ahenkora</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin ahenkora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DEAR PASTOR,
     GREETINGS TO YOU IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS.
   I WOULD BE GLAD TO GET A BOOK THAT CAN EXPLAIN SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE REVELATION  FROM YOUR OUTFIT FOR ME TO BE ABLE PREACH AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS WITH FULL CONFIDENCE.
   AS A CHRISTIAN BROTHER WHO NORMALLY PREACHES IN SCHOOLS AND PUPLIC PLACES THE BOOK WILL DO MORE GOOD TO MY PREACHINGS
  THE FOLLOWING IS MY ADDRESS;
    MARTIN AHENKORA
    BOX KN 3083
    KANESHIE ACCRA
    GHANA.
  I HOPE THIS REQUEST WILL ME YOUR KIND CONSIDERATION AND BE GIVE A FAVOURABLE RESPONSE.
  I HOPE TO HEARING FROM YOU SOON
  THANK YOU.
                              YOURS IN CHRIST,
                               MARTIN AHENKORA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEAR PASTOR,<br />
     GREETINGS TO YOU IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS.<br />
   I WOULD BE GLAD TO GET A BOOK THAT CAN EXPLAIN SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE REVELATION  FROM YOUR OUTFIT FOR ME TO BE ABLE PREACH AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS WITH FULL CONFIDENCE.<br />
   AS A CHRISTIAN BROTHER WHO NORMALLY PREACHES IN SCHOOLS AND PUPLIC PLACES THE BOOK WILL DO MORE GOOD TO MY PREACHINGS<br />
  THE FOLLOWING IS MY ADDRESS;<br />
    MARTIN AHENKORA<br />
    BOX KN 3083<br />
    KANESHIE ACCRA<br />
    GHANA.<br />
  I HOPE THIS REQUEST WILL ME YOUR KIND CONSIDERATION AND BE GIVE A FAVOURABLE RESPONSE.<br />
  I HOPE TO HEARING FROM YOU SOON<br />
  THANK YOU.<br />
                              YOURS IN CHRIST,<br />
                               MARTIN AHENKORA</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.apocalyptic.org/our-fault/free-will-which-will-ultimately-be-our-undoing.php#comment-7041</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people that say there ready to accept hell could see the other side, they would change their mind when it happens. Here on earth NOW we have a degree of Gods protection that subconsciously gives us a sense of security. In hell that&#039;s gone. I prayed over and over to God asking - Are demons the wicked dead? I guess He decided to show me. Demons impersonate the dead loved ones. To make a long story short in a dream from God I met one face to (well they don&#039;t have faces) just a creature with the only emotion ( after their disguise is gone PURE HATE. Hell will be uncomprehendable and no body will be ready for what they will see no matter how hard core they think they are. The time is ahead where we better know God one on one because our faith will be tested with a test that only the spirit from God can discern and guide us through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people that say there ready to accept hell could see the other side, they would change their mind when it happens. Here on earth NOW we have a degree of Gods protection that subconsciously gives us a sense of security. In hell that&#8217;s gone. I prayed over and over to God asking &#8211; Are demons the wicked dead? I guess He decided to show me. Demons impersonate the dead loved ones. To make a long story short in a dream from God I met one face to (well they don&#8217;t have faces) just a creature with the only emotion ( after their disguise is gone PURE HATE. Hell will be uncomprehendable and no body will be ready for what they will see no matter how hard core they think they are. The time is ahead where we better know God one on one because our faith will be tested with a test that only the spirit from God can discern and guide us through.</p>
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		<title>By: p.k.</title>
		<link>http://www.apocalyptic.org/our-fault/free-will-which-will-ultimately-be-our-undoing.php#comment-7039</link>
		<dc:creator>p.k.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damien, thanks for not being so bull headed that you refused to &quot;stand corrected&quot; really, it shows your not totally misled. However, you still refer to religion (of any kind, i&#039;m assuming) as slavery. FYI no one forces anyone else to believe in something they don&#039;t want to. And you&#039;re proof of that. 

I&#039;ve believed in God all my life. And i&#039;ve had times when i&#039;ve questioned it. but anything and everything i do, and have ever done, for my God has been my choice. God is one of love, and because he loves us so much He GAVE us the free will you speak of. and he allows that free will to be practiced in his own church. christians don&#039;t do anything because thay are &quot;forced&quot; to. they do it because they love God just as he loves us, and from that love we are drawn closser to Him, and because we are closer to Him, we desire... we LONG to do the things that are pleasing to him. 

Just as a child longs to please his father or mother, that child is not forced to do the things which the parent knows is best for him/her, but he/she does it anyway.

i hope this and all the other comments help you in your search for the truth, because you are searching, or you never would have started this. 

you are in my, and all my other brothers and sisters in Christ&#039;s prayers. and we WILL pray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damien, thanks for not being so bull headed that you refused to &#8220;stand corrected&#8221; really, it shows your not totally misled. However, you still refer to religion (of any kind, i&#8217;m assuming) as slavery. FYI no one forces anyone else to believe in something they don&#8217;t want to. And you&#8217;re proof of that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve believed in God all my life. And i&#8217;ve had times when i&#8217;ve questioned it. but anything and everything i do, and have ever done, for my God has been my choice. God is one of love, and because he loves us so much He GAVE us the free will you speak of. and he allows that free will to be practiced in his own church. christians don&#8217;t do anything because thay are &#8220;forced&#8221; to. they do it because they love God just as he loves us, and from that love we are drawn closser to Him, and because we are closer to Him, we desire&#8230; we LONG to do the things that are pleasing to him. </p>
<p>Just as a child longs to please his father or mother, that child is not forced to do the things which the parent knows is best for him/her, but he/she does it anyway.</p>
<p>i hope this and all the other comments help you in your search for the truth, because you are searching, or you never would have started this. </p>
<p>you are in my, and all my other brothers and sisters in Christ&#8217;s prayers. and we WILL pray.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, damien, well since you already choose sin to be your god in your life, Good luck in hell. God Bless You.  You said you wont regret it, well guess what, you will. 
Just remember the decision you are making its in this life, and the consequences will be for the rest of the eternity.
Hope you change your mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, damien, well since you already choose sin to be your god in your life, Good luck in hell. God Bless You.  You said you wont regret it, well guess what, you will.<br />
Just remember the decision you are making its in this life, and the consequences will be for the rest of the eternity.<br />
Hope you change your mind.</p>
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		<title>By: damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Servant&quot; - as for my use of terms &quot;servant&quot; and &quot;slave&quot;, the misunderstanding probably origines from the fact that English is far from my native language, so I unconsciously and unwillingly make plenty of such mistakes. More English classes for me, then.

I admit that you do have a point. But when I was referring to &quot;serve&quot; in my above post, I was (due to the error you kindly brought to my attention) doing so strictly in the sense of &quot;slavery&quot;, which is my mistake. It could be a result of the way I was raised or something else, but I always considered religion a form of slavery, and still do. I don&#039;t mean to insult or offend anyone - if you believe, it&#039;s OK and I respect it. Faith should be all about love, not an obligation - but it&#039;s hard for me to imagine such feelings for something so abstract and transcendent. Now it&#039;s clear that I was talking about slavery.. Of course we&#039;re all servants, we have to be in order to keep this sick blue pearl spinning.. But we don&#039;t have to be slaves.

I stand corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Servant&#8221; &#8211; as for my use of terms &#8220;servant&#8221; and &#8220;slave&#8221;, the misunderstanding probably origines from the fact that English is far from my native language, so I unconsciously and unwillingly make plenty of such mistakes. More English classes for me, then.</p>
<p>I admit that you do have a point. But when I was referring to &#8220;serve&#8221; in my above post, I was (due to the error you kindly brought to my attention) doing so strictly in the sense of &#8220;slavery&#8221;, which is my mistake. It could be a result of the way I was raised or something else, but I always considered religion a form of slavery, and still do. I don&#8217;t mean to insult or offend anyone &#8211; if you believe, it&#8217;s OK and I respect it. Faith should be all about love, not an obligation &#8211; but it&#8217;s hard for me to imagine such feelings for something so abstract and transcendent. Now it&#8217;s clear that I was talking about slavery.. Of course we&#8217;re all servants, we have to be in order to keep this sick blue pearl spinning.. But we don&#8217;t have to be slaves.</p>
<p>I stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man chose sin. The world has suffered ever since.---or is religion just a prefix as to why humans seem to suffer? i think to so blindly follow religion is silly, your all sheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man chose sin. The world has suffered ever since.&#8212;or is religion just a prefix as to why humans seem to suffer? i think to so blindly follow religion is silly, your all sheep.</p>
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		<title>By: Servant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Servant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 07:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Damien&quot; - You seem to believe that the terms &quot;servant&quot; and &quot;slave&quot; are interchangable.  They aren&#039;t.  There are many willing servants, but few willing slaves.  One can serve freely, exercising their free will to do so.  People who love God serve God out of love.

Didn&#039;t you ever serve anyone out of love?  Your parents?  Grandparents?  If so, in this servitude, did you feel you were no longer able to exercise your free will?  I doubt it.

When one chooses to serve, they are exercising their free will (they freely and willingly serve.)

God didn&#039;t forbid Adam and Eve from eating the apple so they &quot;wouldn&#039;t know themselves (as human beings).&quot;  They knew they were human beings, with free will. That&#039;s why they were able to choose to disobey God.  God forbid them from eating the apple as a test of their obedience.  They willingly chose to do the one thing God asked them not to do.  They always had free will.  However, after eating the apple they no longer had their innocence.

You are right in that to be human, one must be able to exercise free will.  Man chose sin.  The world has suffered ever since.  Those who see this, freely and willingly renounce their disobedience in order to be made right with God.

You are a human, not God-like.  Adam and Eve wanted to be &quot;like God&quot;; that&#039;s what they were told would happen if they disobeyed Him.  It didn&#039;t.

As a child, you often did what your parents told you to do, not because you lacked the free will to disobey, but because you understood your place in the parent/child relationship.  You don&#039;t give up your will when you choose to serve God.  Instead, you acknowledge His wisdom and authority, and your relative lack thereof.

Everyone serves a master.  If you serve only yourself, then you must be God&#039;s equal.  Are you really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Damien&#8221; &#8211; You seem to believe that the terms &#8220;servant&#8221; and &#8220;slave&#8221; are interchangable.  They aren&#8217;t.  There are many willing servants, but few willing slaves.  One can serve freely, exercising their free will to do so.  People who love God serve God out of love.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you ever serve anyone out of love?  Your parents?  Grandparents?  If so, in this servitude, did you feel you were no longer able to exercise your free will?  I doubt it.</p>
<p>When one chooses to serve, they are exercising their free will (they freely and willingly serve.)</p>
<p>God didn&#8217;t forbid Adam and Eve from eating the apple so they &#8220;wouldn&#8217;t know themselves (as human beings).&#8221;  They knew they were human beings, with free will. That&#8217;s why they were able to choose to disobey God.  God forbid them from eating the apple as a test of their obedience.  They willingly chose to do the one thing God asked them not to do.  They always had free will.  However, after eating the apple they no longer had their innocence.</p>
<p>You are right in that to be human, one must be able to exercise free will.  Man chose sin.  The world has suffered ever since.  Those who see this, freely and willingly renounce their disobedience in order to be made right with God.</p>
<p>You are a human, not God-like.  Adam and Eve wanted to be &#8220;like God&#8221;; that&#8217;s what they were told would happen if they disobeyed Him.  It didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>As a child, you often did what your parents told you to do, not because you lacked the free will to disobey, but because you understood your place in the parent/child relationship.  You don&#8217;t give up your will when you choose to serve God.  Instead, you acknowledge His wisdom and authority, and your relative lack thereof.</p>
<p>Everyone serves a master.  If you serve only yourself, then you must be God&#8217;s equal.  Are you really?</p>
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		<title>By: damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t pray for me. It is my free will.
And if there really are blinders in my eyes, I don&#039;t think I want them removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t pray for me. It is my free will.<br />
And if there really are blinders in my eyes, I don&#8217;t think I want them removed.</p>
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		<title>By: A believer</title>
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		<dc:creator>A believer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to get hung up on the idea that if there was a God, why did bad things happen to good people and vise versa- as you said. God expects us to grow through our trials, and He knows what he is doing. There is such a thing as free will, and this has a hand in the bad things. There is also such thing as evil, and satan and his demons exist to cause suffering and tragedy in an attempt to steal God&#039;s children. When refusing to believe God exists or cares because bad things happen to good people, we allow satan to win. I pray for all of you that God&#039;s light will remove the blinders from your eyes so that you may live the rest of your lives in the peace of having faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to get hung up on the idea that if there was a God, why did bad things happen to good people and vise versa- as you said. God expects us to grow through our trials, and He knows what he is doing. There is such a thing as free will, and this has a hand in the bad things. There is also such thing as evil, and satan and his demons exist to cause suffering and tragedy in an attempt to steal God&#8217;s children. When refusing to believe God exists or cares because bad things happen to good people, we allow satan to win. I pray for all of you that God&#8217;s light will remove the blinders from your eyes so that you may live the rest of your lives in the peace of having faith.</p>
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