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	<title>Comments on: Causing a gravitational pull</title>
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		<title>By: lostone</title>
		<link>http://www.apocalyptic.org/nature-and-science/causing-a-gravitational-pull.php#comment-13527</link>
		<dc:creator>lostone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 05:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one for 'he who is called' ... I won't finish that sentance, but it sure doesn't end with 'i am'

Take that however you want friend :) I mean no insult, but if your fallback belief system is science (or if you watched the secret, 'scientology') then you are relying on a complete system that is fundamentally wrong.

I say this for two reasons:
One
You can't divide by 0 (and I am pretty sure I figured out how to do that)

Two
Time is not constant as you claim it to be, and this is the basis for every equation in physics is it not?

Time is not only inconsistant, but it does not exist at all.
Time is a word we use to calculate our own lives so that we can give them a fundamental start and end, like the numberline (which coincidentally, has NO definitive start or end, simple 'positive' and 'negative' infinity)
Some would say having children is a way to live on after your given body 'dies', kind of like an infinity of humanity.

Time is also related to mass, hence, a fly could live for 24 hours.  To us a day went by, to that fly he lived a full life, was born, grew up, had a family, perhaps mated and then was killed in a horrible car accident when his ass came before his face on my windsheild.

Also cat years, dog years, etc.
Dinosaurs were much larger than us.  I imagine they lived for a lot longer than your traditional 60 years but who really knows.

Take it a step further... the life of our planet, our sun.  Of any other star? millions and billions of years to us, but perhaps days on that scale?

Thats assuming the earth is a life form... and I believe it is.  Same goes for the sun.

Speaking of dinosaurs and religion... if I were God and I suddenly began creating and wondered what to do for fun, if I had no previous knowledge I would simply create a pet... your a being of limitless proportions so naturally, lets make a giant pet.
Dinosaurs.

I'm off base here... this about how wrong science is with, well, everything.

Time doesn't exist its not constant and all equations based on that are now inaccurate, some by a lot, some barely.

Our own lives are the only way we measure time, that and clocks.  You know as well as I do no two clocks keep exactly the same time.
If thats true (and it is) how can we even be sure what day or year it is now?
We've been adjusting clocks since clocks existed.
Even this year gone by we just 'changed' when daylight savings time takes effect and finishes.

Also the calendar has changed more than once since the times of Jesus.
Julian calendar? Anyone?

Time is far from constant.  You can measure it with a computer all you want but you still get the same answer, no two clocks keep the same time and one adjusts itself to match the other.

Also try to remember one thing about your observation tools... even the space telescope is restricted to what is presently in earth's 'line of sight'
Every line of sight has a blindspot.

You can cover approximately what, 2% of the entire sky at any given time, the sky being outside of our atmosphere on all sides?
I hate to quote a hollywood film, but "its a big ass sky."

In all likelyhood, there could be a planet the size of earth, or smaller or larger (somewhat) rotating around our sun right now, on the same 'ring' of our own orbit but on the opposite side, and we'd never know it would we?

Telescope wouldn't see it either no matter how much of the sky you can look at.
AND the hubble wouldn't either.  Sun is a lot bigger than earth.

Assuming our orbit doesn't decay due to a shift in mass from civilization (whole lot of concrete on the western hemisphere that isn't balanced by the eastern; another global warming theory? :D)
And that the other planets orbit doesn't, it could remain in geosync orbit around the SUN with us and we'd never know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one for &#8216;he who is called&#8217; &#8230; I won&#8217;t finish that sentance, but it sure doesn&#8217;t end with &#8216;i am&#8217;</p>
<p>Take that however you want friend :) I mean no insult, but if your fallback belief system is science (or if you watched the secret, &#8217;scientology&#8217;) then you are relying on a complete system that is fundamentally wrong.</p>
<p>I say this for two reasons:<br />
One<br />
You can&#8217;t divide by 0 (and I am pretty sure I figured out how to do that)</p>
<p>Two<br />
Time is not constant as you claim it to be, and this is the basis for every equation in physics is it not?</p>
<p>Time is not only inconsistant, but it does not exist at all.<br />
Time is a word we use to calculate our own lives so that we can give them a fundamental start and end, like the numberline (which coincidentally, has NO definitive start or end, simple &#8216;positive&#8217; and &#8216;negative&#8217; infinity)<br />
Some would say having children is a way to live on after your given body &#8216;dies&#8217;, kind of like an infinity of humanity.</p>
<p>Time is also related to mass, hence, a fly could live for 24 hours.  To us a day went by, to that fly he lived a full life, was born, grew up, had a family, perhaps mated and then was killed in a horrible car accident when his ass came before his face on my windsheild.</p>
<p>Also cat years, dog years, etc.<br />
Dinosaurs were much larger than us.  I imagine they lived for a lot longer than your traditional 60 years but who really knows.</p>
<p>Take it a step further&#8230; the life of our planet, our sun.  Of any other star? millions and billions of years to us, but perhaps days on that scale?</p>
<p>Thats assuming the earth is a life form&#8230; and I believe it is.  Same goes for the sun.</p>
<p>Speaking of dinosaurs and religion&#8230; if I were God and I suddenly began creating and wondered what to do for fun, if I had no previous knowledge I would simply create a pet&#8230; your a being of limitless proportions so naturally, lets make a giant pet.<br />
Dinosaurs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m off base here&#8230; this about how wrong science is with, well, everything.</p>
<p>Time doesn&#8217;t exist its not constant and all equations based on that are now inaccurate, some by a lot, some barely.</p>
<p>Our own lives are the only way we measure time, that and clocks.  You know as well as I do no two clocks keep exactly the same time.<br />
If thats true (and it is) how can we even be sure what day or year it is now?<br />
We&#8217;ve been adjusting clocks since clocks existed.<br />
Even this year gone by we just &#8216;changed&#8217; when daylight savings time takes effect and finishes.</p>
<p>Also the calendar has changed more than once since the times of Jesus.<br />
Julian calendar? Anyone?</p>
<p>Time is far from constant.  You can measure it with a computer all you want but you still get the same answer, no two clocks keep the same time and one adjusts itself to match the other.</p>
<p>Also try to remember one thing about your observation tools&#8230; even the space telescope is restricted to what is presently in earth&#8217;s &#8216;line of sight&#8217;<br />
Every line of sight has a blindspot.</p>
<p>You can cover approximately what, 2% of the entire sky at any given time, the sky being outside of our atmosphere on all sides?<br />
I hate to quote a hollywood film, but &#8220;its a big ass sky.&#8221;</p>
<p>In all likelyhood, there could be a planet the size of earth, or smaller or larger (somewhat) rotating around our sun right now, on the same &#8216;ring&#8217; of our own orbit but on the opposite side, and we&#8217;d never know it would we?</p>
<p>Telescope wouldn&#8217;t see it either no matter how much of the sky you can look at.<br />
AND the hubble wouldn&#8217;t either.  Sun is a lot bigger than earth.</p>
<p>Assuming our orbit doesn&#8217;t decay due to a shift in mass from civilization (whole lot of concrete on the western hemisphere that isn&#8217;t balanced by the eastern; another global warming theory? :D)<br />
And that the other planets orbit doesn&#8217;t, it could remain in geosync orbit around the SUN with us and we&#8217;d never know it.</p>
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		<title>By: IamhewhoiscalledIam</title>
		<link>http://www.apocalyptic.org/nature-and-science/causing-a-gravitational-pull.php#comment-7674</link>
		<dc:creator>IamhewhoiscalledIam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmmmmm....bees.....
So, Benjamin - he who stupidly posts his full name online, this planet, it pulls asteroids off the surface of the sun, which is made of fusing Hydrogen atoms? How big is this planet? If it is smaller than the sun then the sun would swallow it when it comes as close as you seem to have seen it do in your vision (which Freud would probably have called a plain old dream), if larger than the sun then it could drag the entire star along with it as it passes or maybe will just go into orbit around it, probably destroying the planet Mercury as it does so, that's a little thing called gravity for you, Newton discovered it cos he spent some time reading and learning from books other than the only one that you read quite a bit from, also on the subject of reading - a couple of spelling lessons might not have went amiss either at some point in your life: Solor? Astroeds? Alantic? Can't you even spell Revelations properly and I bet (yeah it's a sin but hey, I'm only human) you read that at least once a month?
Now, Planet X - the media are keeping it quiet, right? What about the millions of astronomers, including myself, no-one has told us to cover it up, and we can see a fair bit further away than our own little sun, so if there is a planet X, then someone is hiding it from us, maybe your dad Jesus has it in his pocket? You and millions of others have no idea of scientific principles and are consequently doomed to explaining cosmological phenomena as the work of thinking, rational beings, cos let's face it, if you'd just spent 4 and a half billion years building a planet and putting beautiful trees, plants and oceans on it, then creating creatures and people capable of making astounding discoveries and breathtaking works of art and of showing so much love to each other it keeps them together for their entire lives...you'd want to smash it with a huge rock too wouldn't ya? Go back to school Benjamin - I don't care what age you are, you know and have learned  absolutely...nothing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmmmmm&#8230;.bees&#8230;..<br />
So, Benjamin - he who stupidly posts his full name online, this planet, it pulls asteroids off the surface of the sun, which is made of fusing Hydrogen atoms? How big is this planet? If it is smaller than the sun then the sun would swallow it when it comes as close as you seem to have seen it do in your vision (which Freud would probably have called a plain old dream), if larger than the sun then it could drag the entire star along with it as it passes or maybe will just go into orbit around it, probably destroying the planet Mercury as it does so, that&#8217;s a little thing called gravity for you, Newton discovered it cos he spent some time reading and learning from books other than the only one that you read quite a bit from, also on the subject of reading - a couple of spelling lessons might not have went amiss either at some point in your life: Solor? Astroeds? Alantic? Can&#8217;t you even spell Revelations properly and I bet (yeah it&#8217;s a sin but hey, I&#8217;m only human) you read that at least once a month?<br />
Now, Planet X - the media are keeping it quiet, right? What about the millions of astronomers, including myself, no-one has told us to cover it up, and we can see a fair bit further away than our own little sun, so if there is a planet X, then someone is hiding it from us, maybe your dad Jesus has it in his pocket? You and millions of others have no idea of scientific principles and are consequently doomed to explaining cosmological phenomena as the work of thinking, rational beings, cos let&#8217;s face it, if you&#8217;d just spent 4 and a half billion years building a planet and putting beautiful trees, plants and oceans on it, then creating creatures and people capable of making astounding discoveries and breathtaking works of art and of showing so much love to each other it keeps them together for their entire lives&#8230;you&#8217;d want to smash it with a huge rock too wouldn&#8217;t ya? Go back to school Benjamin - I don&#8217;t care what age you are, you know and have learned  absolutely&#8230;nothing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zillah</title>
		<link>http://www.apocalyptic.org/nature-and-science/causing-a-gravitational-pull.php#comment-7220</link>
		<dc:creator>Zillah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 03:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scientifficaly that makes absolutely no sense. Asteroids do not break off the sun. You may as well tell a story about dogs that shoot bees from their mouths...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientifficaly that makes absolutely no sense. Asteroids do not break off the sun. You may as well tell a story about dogs that shoot bees from their mouths&#8230;</p>
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